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Kahil
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Dan
1.3.2 was released this morning. On top of the fixes for stats and HTC sense 1.5 devices, we also squeezed in a small UI update including better tab icons and a nice ‘WordPress Blue’ title header. Thanks to Kahil Young for contributing!
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Matt Katzenberger
For stats would it be possible to add an option to select a date range? Or failing that, add an option to just view stats for “Today”?
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Matt Katzenberger
I know it’s possible from a technical standpoint. I downloaded the 1.3 source and got it sorta working. I’m not a particularly good coder though so I probably screwed something up.
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Matt Katzenberger
What I did:
Added a string value for Today.
Added a 1 day item to reportIntervals in Arrays.
Added a new case 0 for an interval of 1 in viewStats.java.
Added “if (dataSet.size()!=1)” around the code to create and display the graph, so that if there is only 1 day the graph isn’t displayed (although it would be cool if stats could be graphed by hour for one day, but i have no idea how to do that or if it’s possible). -
Matt Katzenberger
Errrr. Scratch that last part. Hiding the chart that way doesn’t work out too well.
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Dan
The stats API’s smallest data point is one day. It doesn’t appear to get any smaller than that, such as hourly.
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Matt Katzenberger
That’s ok. Would it still be possible to do the “Today” or “select date range” option. For a mobile app, with even my modest ammount of site traffic 7 days can be too much information to sort through. Plus I like knowing what’s going on “right now”.
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Dan
Sure! I’ll create a trac ticket.
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Matt Katzenberger
Thanks!
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bgibson135
Does the app currently allow the upload of mp3 audio files? I’m using the HIFICORDER app to create mp3s, but when uploading to WP via email, the email systems are blocking large file uploads. Thanks. Bill
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Anders Sundnes Løvlie
I would also love to see this feature!
Bill: Are you able to upload small mp3s to your blog via email? How? Been looking at Postie, but it seems (for videos at least) it only takes the url, not the file itself, right? -
Bill Gibson, II
I’ve been able to create and post up to a 9 min audio file. The email systems I’m using to post are what are blocking a larger file size. Have posted audio, picture and google maps location all in one posting (as long as the total file size remains small).
This is what the posting looks like after it has successfully uploaded:
http://bgibson135.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/anders-audio-via-phone/Wordpress automatically generates the Javascript audio player when it sees the mp3 I’ve attached to the posting.
Using HIFICORDER to create mp3 audio and then sending post to WordPress via email:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/billg2/sets/72157624360884313/HIFICORDER was $10 for the app, but it does produce good audio.
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Dan
I think we can add support for audio files, not sure if Android has a pick action for MP3s though so it might take a bit more work than images & video.
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Matt Katzenberger
When I try to view stats I get a cannot connect to http://stats.wordpress.com error
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firepower76
Same (or other?) problem here. Login at WordPress.com works, but WordPress for Android Login doesn’t work
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Dan
Are you guys on self hosted blogs? Do you have the WordPress.com stats plugin installed?
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Matt Katzenberger
One of my blogs is self hosted with the wordpress.com stats plugin, and the other is a wordpress.com blog.
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Matt Katzenberger
And the stats page isn’t working for either.
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Firepower76
Self hosted blog with WordPress.com stats plugin + account @ WordPress.com
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phikai
I’m on Self Hosted Blog with WordPress.com Stats Plugin + Account @ WordPress.com and I get no kind of error message or anything, just tries to load and then the login box pops back up…
HTC DROID Incredible running Android 2.1 w/ Sense
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phikai
Just updated to 1.3.1 and it still doesn’t work.
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Dan
Do you see stats in your dashboard? What’s your blog url?
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phikai
Yup, I see stats in my dashboard on the site and on wordpress.com
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Dan
So what happens now? does it still prompt for the login continually?
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phikai
Yup, still the continuous login prompt.
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Dan
I think there may be a url matching issue, since you have it installed at /wp it’s not finding a match. Stand by…
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phikai
Thanks!
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Dan
Ok, please try this build out for me: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/334957/WordPress-1.3.2.apk
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phikai
I get the Connection to http://stats.wordpress.com refused error message now.
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phikai
Are you going to push the 1.3.2 version to market?
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Dan
tomorrow, we don’t like pushing updates out too frequently…
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phikai
Sounds good…thanks again, and go enjoy your evening…unless you’re a west coaster…in which case…keep working!
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Dan
Well, at least you got further I guess. Are there some security settings on the incredible you can change and try again?
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phikai
It’s not asking for my wordpress.com login info…not sure if that’s why it says connection refused.
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Dan
It should of had it stored. Can you try uninstall/reinstalling the linked build above to start fresh?
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phikai
I did that, even deleted the wordpress folder off the SD Card. Went back in, went to stats, didn’t ask for username/password.
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Dan
this is a real head scratcher! Would you mind creating an admin account on your blog for me to test with? I promise not to change anything
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phikai
done
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Dan
It prompted me for the login. For giggles, can you try with the account you just created to see what happens?
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phikai
It prompted me as well…wonder if having the same username confuses it…
Either way, stats didn’t work
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Matt Katzenberger
Stats still don’t work for me in 1.3.1
On my hosted wordpress blog I just keep getting the login box for my wordpress.com account whenever I view the stats pageand on my WordPress.com blog I get the same “connection to http://stats.wordpress.com refused” error.
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Matt Katzenberger
I even cleared the app data, uninstalled and reinstalled with no effect.
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Dan
Are you on HTC sense Matt? Wondering if you have the same issue as @phikai
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Matt Katzenberger
Moto Droid.
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Dan
Weird, it works fine on my droid w/ a self-hosted and WP.com blog..
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Matt Katzenberger
I’m running a custom rom (2.2). Could that be the problem?
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Dan
I wouldn’t think so… but maybe.
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Matt Katzenberger
I got a java exception. Unknown host for my hosted blog. That’s something different. it only happened once and then it went back to asking me for my wp.com login information over.
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Dan
Have you tried over wifi?
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Matt Katzenberger
Yep. I’ve tried over WiFi.
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Dan
Kai figured out his problem – he was running an app called AdFree android that is blocking access. Do you have the same app running?
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Matt Katzenberger
Yep. Disabling it fixed the issue for my WordPress.com blog but I’m still getting the login box loop for my hosted blog.
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Dan
I think you’ll need this build as well for the self-hosted: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/334957/WordPress-1.3.2.apk
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foebea
Same issue here. I’m running this on Droid X with WordPress 1.3.2 installed from DropBox and have checked, there is no adblocking software running. Self Hosted wordpress using the latest version. I have stats installed, but im not sure if it is THE wordpress stats plugin. There seem to be quite a few. I tried another one called WordPress.com Stats but it did not resolve the issue. How can I tell if I have the right one working?
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Dan
Make sure you are running the WordPress.com stats plugin here:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/stats/
Make sure everything is connect up ok and then try again in the app. You’ll need to get a WordPress.com account and grab your API key to put in the plugin settings.
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vygr
Stats running and visible at my hosted blog, the right plugin and the latest WP.
Downloaded 1.3.2, removed the old app but the moment I type in my WP credentials the same thing happened, a message that stats.wordpress refused connection. Any help?-
Dan
Are you running the AdFree Android app? It blocks access to stats.
http://dev.android.wordpress.org/2010/07/06/when-i-try-to-view-stats-i-get-a-cannot/#comment-979
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vygr
sorry, I forgot to write that I read that and that I don’t have any blockers installed, including that one.
I had a username/pass prompt, but after I filled that in, I got that refused message.Ad Free description also says that all the errors should be reported at XDA. Has anyone reported this one?
I also wanted to give a couple suggestions for improvement od this app, but I found no easy way other than making an off-topic comment here
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Dan
Comments are welcome, just start a new topic here. There’s also the forums at http://android.forums.wordpress.org. I wonder if your carrier is blocking stats.wordpress.com or something?
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Mario
When I try to open that url from the browser it fails. Should I be able to open it?
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Dan
Can you get to this URL on your phone?
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Mario
No, cannot open it. ATM I can only try through 3G, no Wi-Fis nearby , but I think I tried it (stats.wpress.com) and it.failed to load.
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foebea
I was able to get to http://stats.wordpress.com/csv.php via the droid x without issue. Still same issue with the in app stats page though.
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Dan
@foebea – it seems that you have stats up and running ok. Do you get the same result from the 1.3.2 release in android market?
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Atsutane Shirane
Using 1.3.2 and android 1.6. Still having problem login. Running self hosted blog.
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Dan
Are you getting an error message now?
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mircnet
Yeah it say incorrect login or site not found. I can view http://stats.wordpress.com/csv.php
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Dan
The app does some domain matching to grab the stats data. Does the current url for your blog match up with what shows in the WordPress.com stats plugin?
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Mario
Dan, just tried accessing http://stats.wordpress.com/csv.php via Opera Mini and it worked, which means that the problem is my current operater.
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Dan
@Mario, you’ll probably have to call them up and explain that stats.wordpress.com shouldn’t be blocked. Which carrier is it?
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mircnet
The url for home is at top level “www” while the blog url using subdomain. Is that gonna be a problem..?
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deli
When I brower the comments tab, I get an error:
578 ActivityManager I Starting activity: Intent { comp={org.wordpres
s.android/org.wordpress.android.tabView} (has
extras) }
1421 dalvikvm D GC freed 4473 objects / 233576 bytes in 111ms
1421 dalvikvm I Stack overflow, expanding (0×41048200 to 0×410
48000)
1421 dalvikvm I Shrank stack (to 0×41048200, curFrame is 0×410
49cd8)
1421 AndroidRuntime D Shutting down VM
1421 dalvikvm W threadid=3: thread exiting with uncaught excep
tion (group=0x4000fe70)
1421 AndroidRuntime E Uncaught handler: thread main exiting due to u
ncaught exception
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Dan
Are you on a device with HTC sense and android 1.5?
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lawrencegs
Same here. I keep having the wordpress.com login box appearing. Self-hosted, default installation path with wordpress stats plugin. Running on Google I/O device, 1.6 vanilla.
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Brian
I just started having issues viewing stats on 1.3.2. It was working fine and I noticed in the above posts that the adfree app causes the stats to not work. I unistalled the adfree app and am still having problems accessing the stats. I can log on fine…my problem is just the stats.
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Dan
I wonder if AdFree doesn’t uninstall well. It messes with your hosts file to block the sites I think.
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Matt Katzenberger
Is there any change of getting support for Disqus comments? I doubt it, but it was work a shot.
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Raanan Bar-Cohen
Disqus doesn’t work on any 3rd party mobile or desktop apps because they don’t sync with the WordPress comments system which is what you are interacting with in this app.
FYI — in contrast, http://intensedebate.com has proper sync so those comments can be moderated via the mobile apps including this WordPress for Android one.
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Matt Katzenberger
Thanks! I switched to intensedebate and it’s working just fine.
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Dan
Just added the 17th language file to WordPress for Android. Big thanks to the translators!
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Oren
I want to help with the Hebrew translation, can someone please guide me on how to start?
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Dan
@Oren – You can help translate at http://translate.wordpress.org/projects/android/dev
There’s also a getting started guide here: http://translate.wordpress.org/getting-started
Thanks for the help!
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Dan
Version 1.3 Beta is ready for testing, it adds the following features:
- Stats tab for WordPress.com blogs and self-hosted that are using the WordPress.com stats plugin added.
- Bulk comment moderation (select ‘edit’ on the comments tab).
- Better video embedding for self-hosted blogs.
Follow the install instructions to get the new beta on your device. Please test and report any bugs!
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Matt Katzenberger
Loving this app. As the app continues to grow and gain features, have you guys considered doing a UI based on the same layout as the official Twitter, Facebook, and Google IO apps. A 6-button home page (instead of tabs) and an Action bar.
Just a thought.
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Dan
Yes, we have started working on a ‘dashboard’ like those apps have. Any ideas on what you’d like to see there? Some ideas we had for the main icons:
- Posts
- Pages
- Comments
- Stats
- Freshly Pressed
The action bar would have new post… and ?
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Matt Katzenberger
Let me preface this by saying I have A LOT of suggestions. This does not mean I don’t like the app, quite the opposite. WordPress for Android is one of my most used apps and with use comes experience in what I think would be positive changes for the app.
Ok. Got it down.
The dashboad page would consist of Comments, Posts, Pages, Links, Stats, and Blog Settings. The action bar would be context sensitive (relative to the page you were currently on)On the dashboard the action bar would contain a dropdown of all currently added blogs, and a “new post” button. Hitting the menu button on the dashboard would reveal an App Settings and a Manage Blogs option. From manage blogs the user can add and delete blogs.
The comments page would be very similar to how it is now, but should probably clearly mark replies as replies.
The posts page should have a dropdown in the action bar for selecting post type (or all posts). (I.E. Support custom post types) A cool additional feature should be a “Copy to blog” option when the long-press menu is brought up, allowing copying a post from one blog into another.
The links page would allow a user to manage their Links (like blogroll). It would allow users to add and remove links. The links page should also use a dropdown to select the link category. A cool feature to go along this would be adding a “Share Link” option to appropriate share menus, that automatically adds the shared link to a user-chosen category. This new section could just as easily be a Media section, and allow users to manage the media on their wordpress blog.
The Pages page would be about the same as it is now.
The stats page would be about the same as it is now (although I still haven’t seen it due to a bug).
The blog settings page should be about the same as the Blog Settings page is now. However, it would be cool if there was a way to control more aspects of a wordpress blog through this app.
Additionally, and I don’t know too much about programming and how the app interacts with wordpress, but it seems like it takes a very long time to update comments, posts, pages…is there a way to improve this speed.
I did a rough mockup of a dashboard page you can look at here: http://katzmatt.com/?attachment_id=721
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Dan
Thanks Matt, that’s pretty much along the lines of what we are thinking, including your mockup. The links idea is interesting, not sure how many users would be interested in that feature in the mobile app?
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Matt Katzenberger
Idk what else could go there other than Links or Media though.
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Matt Katzenberger
Ok. Those are good. Maybe a section for Users, or more detailed access to blog setting, or a control panel for Custom post types and/or Taxonomies.
As for the action bar it should be context sensitive to the section it’s in. In posts it should have refresh, new, and change post type (just a thought) for example. It should not be exactly the same for each section but provide specific controls for that section. (although it will probably always have a refresh button).
I love where this app is going. It has very quickly become one of my favorites to work with.
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Kevin Hall
When will you give the ability to save as “pending review”? I can only save as a draft right now on the android app, but I have to go on pc to actually submit as pending review
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Dan
Stats Preview
Stats in WordPress for Android is really coming along! Here’s a sneak peek, any feedback welcome:
Still figuring out which icon to use for the tab
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Andy Botting
Speaking of stats, I was looking through your code and was horrified by the information you’re collecting about your users and sending home. Why would you collect my IMEI number or phone number for example. Don’t you think this is a little invasion of privacy?
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Dan
Hi Andy,
We capture some device information for internal reporting purposes. The IMEI is used to get a unique record. Be assured that we don’t capture the phone number, you may have seen ‘mobile network number’, which isn’t the phone number but rather the mobile network code.
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Dan
Working on bulk comment moderation, it’ll be awesome
Kahil, 
Andy Botting are discussing. 
Kahil 10:16 am on July 27, 2010 Permalink |
You guys are welcome! If anyone needs help you can email me. designs at ikahil dot com.
Alex Leonard 8:40 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink |
Nice work guys, the app keeps on getting better
Kahil 12:43 am on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
Here is a new concept based on the suggestions below…
Kahil 10:50 am on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
As an explanation…. This is what a mobile dashboard could look like given the suggestions of people wanting a ‘facebook’ or ‘twitter’ look to it.
The top bar features the WordPress logo, the blog name and also a search button to bring up a popup to search for things like posts, comments, etc.
The comments icon could have a subtle number in the top balloon that tells you the number of new comments.
The posts and pages sections are self explanatory.
The media section will display galleries for their sounds, pictures and videos. A user could view or upload new media.
The settings section is obviously where you can mess with all your settings.
The plugins section is where the stats plugin could go. This would keep it usable, but out of the way for users who don’t use it. It is also where future plugins could go that can be viewed/managed via the mobile app.
Dan 11:03 am on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
I like it, we would also like to add a reader to the app, maybe at the bottom it could have a small area that cycles through the featured posts on WordPress.com?
Kahil 11:13 am on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
What if that was the first and default item in the beginning where you choose from your different blogs? It would keep it as a separate item from the blogs while still being viewable since it is in the very first section.
Dan 12:29 pm on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
I think where you have ‘Blog Name’ we’d have a drop down that has a blog selector like Matt suggested below. So the screen you have designed here would be the ‘home’ screen.
ikahil 12:47 pm on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
What if it was done like Gmail handles different accounts. in the bottom settings popup you can choose “Accounts” and it will take you to an account selector section.
ikahil 12:49 pm on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
I just worry that it would get too cluttered if that top section were dropped down even more for another section to go.
Kahil 11:52 am on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
Here it is with the new comment number idea…
ikahil 12:50 pm on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
With the ticker…
Kahil 2:31 pm on July 28, 2010 Permalink |
Ok everyone. Check out the newest mockup that has four panels that illustrate the various ideas so far…
http://kahil.deviantart.com/art/WordPress-for-Android-Concept-173037282
Dan 1:55 pm on July 29, 2010 Permalink |
Awesome, thanks for compiling the ideas together!
Kahil 4:40 pm on July 29, 2010 Permalink |
No problem! If anyone has any other ideas for it, feel free to send them to me at: designs at ikahil dot com. I’ll do my best to take the ideas and put them in a mockup.
Joshua Sigar 11:18 am on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
For the top bar, I want a “new post” button, either next to the “search” button or in place of. Or just create a widget
Thanks.
Kahil 12:16 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
That is what the post section is for. If that were to happen, then people would want a button for new page, etc. I think the search button would be more useful, especially for those who blog heavily. Remember, in a good app design, less is more when it comes to what is on the screen.
A new post button can go in the place of the search button once in the post section…the same for the page section. That would look and work much betta.
Joshua Sigar 12:43 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
I suppose those same people use “new post” feature a lot, too.
Anyway, no big deal; we can always create a widget.
Dan 12:50 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
I do like the idea of a quick post button, similar to the tweet button in the twitter app that is always there…
Kahil 1:48 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
Okies… I’ll see what I can come up with….
How about…. making it so that when you long press on the posts and pages button it does the new post/page?
Joshua Sigar 2:35 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
Heh, users probably won’t know the feature is there.
Or probably it’s just me. Too many things are unpredictable with apps on phones. By looking at an element in the interface, you just know if it will react on a click, a long-click, neither or both.
I think it’s OK to handle a click and a long-click on a list item., but not on those icons.
Joshua Sigar 2:52 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
That should read, “you just don’t know.”
Kahil 3:45 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink |
Here you guys go… I’d post the image here too, but I don’t seem to have that option. :/
http://kahil.deviantart.com/art/WordPress-for-Android-Concept-173037282
Joshua Sigar 4:24 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink
Is the top right screen what you get when you press “+” button? , I have an objection.
I sort of defeat the purpose when you have to click twice to write a new post.
We probably should do a poll but people don’t write Pages (frequently).
And what is “Add Image…” and “Add Video…” People write a post and attach media from post screen. (That said, I also have an issue with Media button on the home screen but that’s another thread.)
I prefer a button that will lead straight to a New Post screen.
Joshua Sigar 4:30 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink
It should read button?If so, I have an objection.
It should read It sort of defeats the purpose…
Kahil 8:39 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink
would an extra click really be all that much of a burden on you? I mean, if your sprain your thumb I’ll send you a splint. Its an effort to appease everyone. Some people will want a little of everything and we can’t please them all. In the current version you already only have the add button in each of the sections (posts, pages, etc.)
I was trying to give a little bit of it all for every user. Some users make a lot of posts, some a lot of pages, some have a lot of media on them. It also give a small later of assurance in the case users with sausage fingers accidentally hit that button. Can call it a quick add button for all the sections when selected from the dashboard. They could still put in that meta-click on the posts, pages, and media buttons to go directly to the new of each.
Kahil 8:45 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink
Also, the media section is good for users who do deal with a lot of media, especially images.
remember that this app isn’t meant to be about what YOU want and like. Its meant for everyone. Like I said, some people like one thing and others don’t. I own my own design business and from my experience, you can’t please everyone when designing something for the masses. The best but is to try and offer a little of it all and meet them in the middle.
The idea of this mobile dashboard was to reflect what users get on the web based version. Here I have put on the main sections of the web based version. I think that most people would agree that those six sections are the main sections of the web version right?
Joshua Sigar 3:41 am on July 31, 2010 Permalink
Before I say anything more, let me just clarify a thing. Anything I’ve suggested is not for myself; it’s what I think will benefit more users. I should be careful with my wording now.
Kahil 8:44 am on July 31, 2010 Permalink
Think of it like this… from the dashboard, the add button would bring up that popup window. When you are in the posts section or pages section, it would automatically go to a new item. Trying to keep in mind that not every user makes a lot of posts. On some of the sites I’ve made and sites my friends have, they make more pages and upload more media than they do posts because they are using WordPress not for blogging, but as a back end to a site.